Well? Well? Well?
| I can actually imagine the Tonio episode being one of the best lol I do think some might be a little put of by the SoL stuff and will be thinking ''okay, so when is something going to happen?'' until Kira makes his grand debut. Also...screw everyone who calls it a P4 rip-off in advance. It was already bad enough to see a ''reviewer'' on this website call Stardust Crusaders a P4 rip-off and it wasn't just ignorance; their logic was that Persona is a spin-off of Shin Megami Tensei which is older than SC....funny thing is that going with that reasoning, Phantom Blood still came first so the argument is all the more invalid. |
| They will complain about Josuke's hair |
LeDom said: I can actually imagine the Tonio episode being one of the best lol I do think some might be a little put of by the SoL stuff and will be thinking ''okay, so when is something going to happen?'' until Kira makes his grand debut. Also...screw everyone who calls it a P4 rip-off in advance. It was already bad enough to see a ''reviewer'' on this website call Stardust Crusaders a P4 rip-off and it wasn't just ignorance; their logic was that Persona is a spin-off of Shin Megami Tensei which is older than SC....funny thing is that going with that reasoning, Phantom Blood still came first so the argument is all the more invalid. Which reviewer said this? Also, I've heard that P4 is in fact based off of Part 4, so... |
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| Probably how they beat Kira in the very end. And by that I mean that Jotaro (and I guess koichi too) are technically the ones to kill Kira and not Josuke. The fact that Jotaro was involved in the ultimate killing of Kira at all is annoying. I mean it's Josuke's story he should be the one to ultimately finish him off. Basically Jotaro is the one to off Kira because the whole way through the manga everyone's so deathly afraid of Jotaro's time stop and in the end when Jotaro is finally able to get one off on Kira/Kosaku he basically beats the main villain after Josuke NOT finishing Kira off. I mean obviously Jotaro nor did anyone really intentionally finish anyone off but it pissed me off reading the manga (especially considering I absolutely adored part 4 as a whole otherwise) how they kiss up to Jotaro to the point where he is one half (also Koichi) of the demise of Kira and Josuke isn't even the 2nd half of it. I still feel like Kira should have taken Jotaro out (I mean in the end to the point where Jotaro is out of the final fight, obviously he does Jotaro and Koichi in earlier) of the final fight and even if it was a combination attack of Josuke, Okuyasu, Koichi, and Rohan I think that'd been fine. Just felt really raw that they made Jotaro as important as they did. I mean I was hoping they'd let him pass the torch all the way but not before Jotaro puts the final nail in the villain of a story that's not even his lol. But aside from that I think people might complain (imo unwarranted but they will) about the stuff that's a little more out there like ghosts and Mikitaka. |
Champloo_Remix said: . Kira's death was amazing it was just seeing this huge asshole and his plans getting unraveled gloriously from his "son" to Josuke to Jotaro and Koichi to Reimi finishing him off with the complete surround Josuke characterization was that of an aggressive sounding/looking punk with an evil looking stand to match yet being the most kind and gentile Jostar no way he would straight up execute Kira Giorino/Johnny/Jotatro style |
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| -Definitely more mentally challenged people complaining about motw while deciding to continue to watch said motw anime for 3 years and counting. -The SoL thing is weird, it's something that can go both ways. Some people will like that more than it being 100% fights in the previous parts. The tone shift itself, well, I don't think there is that much of one. SC is pretty heavy on comedy and gags. -Joseph is guaranteed rage material. People are going to flip when he's senile and doesn't fight at all, and then even more when it's revealed he cheated on Suzie Q. -It being directionless in the first half is something I've seen manga people often say, so I imagine that will be a complaint. Kira is everywhere with Jojo related stuff so I assume most people have high expectations for him, and they might be annoyed when it's taking forever for him to show up. But those complaints should all but vanish once the ball gets rolling there. |
StefanHere said: Champloo_Remix said: . Kira's death was amazing it was just seeing this huge asshole and his plans getting unraveled gloriously from his "son" to Josuke to Jotaro and Koichi to Reimi finishing him off with the complete surround Josuke characterization was that of an aggressive sounding/looking punk with an evil looking stand to match yet being the most kind and gentile Jostar no way he would straight up execute Kira Giorino/Johnny/Jotatro style No right and that's all well and good (also how many people did Jotaro actually kill besides Dio prior to part 4?). I'm not insinuating Josuke should've intentionally executed him. The way Kira died was great as a whole it's just Jotaro essentially killing the main villain in part 4 was a "oh are you F'ing kidding me?". He should've stayed uninvolved or incapacitated by Kira. Also side note: I'm a Joseph fanboy myself but was fine with where he was as a character in part 4 considering he's had such a good run and had been the MC in part 2, kind of second-in-command/2nd place mentor in part 3, and is in the backdrop of part 4. Made sense to see Joseph like that in THAT old age. I mean Joseph can't be springy and young forever. We saw this guy basically live his whole life from when he was old to "i've fallen and I can't get up" age. He can't be happy rappy yoro piku-ne Joseph forever. Also the fact that his own son is the MC of part 4 kind of made me feel better about it. |
Champloo_RemixOct 29, 2015 6:38 PM
| Kouichi's stand, act Freeze 3, holding back on his swearing. SON. OF. A. BITCH! It will be just like Joseph in SC. |
| -Color Palettes. -That it's even more episodic than stardust crusaders. -The final fight is anti climatic. -The ED song is shit. -Where's the plot? -Part 2 is better. -Dio > Kira. |
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| Guys, do we seriously need more "fuck secondaries"-threads? Because that's what this thread sounds like to me. Come on, Jojo fanbase, be better than that. |
| I forgot to add an option for comedy... Crap. Well, maybe when Part 5 rolls around, I'll add that to the thread. |
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ichii_1 said: -That it's even more episodic than stardust crusaders. What? I think it's much less episodic than Part 3, almost all of the stand user they fight appear again later on, so you never get the feeling that a chapter was filler. |
JonasTheJay said: ichii_1 said: -That it's even more episodic than stardust crusaders. What? I think it's much less episodic than Part 3, almost all of the stand user they fight appear again later on, so you never get the feeling that a chapter was filler. Actually the whole part 4 is a SOL and accomplishes almost nothing. |
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Dragonage2ftw said: Deltascourge said: The only thing I can think of is that Koichis enemies have a habit of "shrinking" I've heard this said a few times now... What do people mean by this? After Tamami and Hazamada fights against Koichi the characters suddendly shrink from being as tall as Josuke to bring shorter than Koichi himself. The explanation that the fanbase usually give is that is a metaphor for them being humble down by the manly manly Koichi |
Throwaway_Name said: Josuke's shit hair reported |
ASwiftCoyote said: Dragonage2ftw said: I've heard this said a few times now... What do people mean by this? After Tamami and Hazamada fights against Koichi the characters suddendly shrink from being as tall as Josuke to bring shorter than Koichi himself. The explanation that the fanbase usually give is that is a metaphor for them being humble down by the manly manly Koichi Ah. I see. Thank you! |
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ASwiftCoyote said: Throwaway_Name said: Josuke's shit hair reported FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT, MY MAN. FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT. |
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| Senile joseph and the slice of moments |
| huh |
| "Monster of the week" Also I'm expecting a lot of outrage about elderly Joseph from the hamon fanboys. |
| TOO. MANY. SUBPLOTS. Lame stands It feels less important compared to fighting Vampire World Domination. Josuke's stupid hair |
ichii_1 said: JonasTheJay said: What? I think it's much less episodic than Part 3, almost all of the stand user they fight appear again later on, so you never get the feeling that a chapter was filler. Actually the whole part 4 is a SOL and accomplishes almost nothing. Part 3 accomplishes almost nothing too and it's NOT slice of life. That's even worse if you ask me. |
JonasTheJay said: Part 3 accomplishes almost nothing too and it's NOT slice of life. That's even worse if you ask me. It wraps up the vampire arc while simultaneously transitioning to a new and more interesting type of superpower. Oh and I guess they save Holly, too. Hooray. =P Slice of life series usually suck, but Jojo Part 4 is one of the few exceptions to that rule, because it's still mostly insane wall-to-wall fighting. |
| What do you guys mean Persona 4 rip off since I haven't seen it yet... |
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Madara22 said: What do you guys mean Persona 4 rip off since I haven't seen it yet... You should avoid this thread then, as we'll be posting spoilers. Unless you're the type of person who doesn't mind spoilers. |
LeDom said: I know one guy who did just that. He had done a Live Reaction to episode 1 of SC with the woman who handles CrunchyRoll's Twitter, and didn't previously see any of the other JoJo parts.Also...screw everyone who calls it a P4 rip-off in advance. It was already bad enough to see a ''reviewer'' on this website call Stardust Crusaders a P4 rip-off and it wasn't just ignorance; their logic was that Persona is a spin-off of Shin Megami Tensei which is older than SC....funny thing is that going with that reasoning, Phantom Blood still came first so the argument is all the more invalid. Oh...hey, look - I found it: |
| Always remember that anime is a niche medium in Japan. Manga sells way better |
| Old as dirt joseph is probably the one that people will talk shit the most. Personally: rock paper scissors. I hate that chapter, I 've already planned on skipping those episodes |
| Someone somewhere will somehow actually say they hate Rohan. |
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ShadowGentleman said: Someone somewhere will somehow actually say they hate Rohan. He'll win them over eventually, despite his introduction as a villain. |
Madara22 said: What do you guys mean Persona 4 rip off since I haven't seen it yet... This Part was the inspiration for the plot of Persona 4. They're very similar in some respects. |
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ShadowGentleman said: Someone somewhere will somehow actually say they hate Rohan. My friends hate Rohan, and he's my 3rd favorite JoJo character. |
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TheJaceX said: ShadowGentleman said: Someone somewhere will somehow actually say they hate Rohan. My friends hate Rohan, and he's my 3rd favorite JoJo character. Here's some advice. Get better friends. |
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ShigyC said: Oh...hey, look - I found it: video I thought the video itself was bad enough, but then I saw the dozens of comments calling him a "moeshit eater" and saying that he "only likes moeshit". "Moeshit" vs. "Manime" is probably one of the most tired and bipolar anime-related mindsets these days |
JonasTheJay said: They will complain about Josuke's hair I'm surprised there's so much emphasis on Jotaro in the possible complaints. I hardly cared for him in 4 while best Jojo was around. At least second to Joseph. |
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| I hope they decide to translate the title to "Diamond is not crash" again, that will give people something to complain about. |
| why would someone complain about the alien? the Mikitaka chapters were some of the funniest!! :( probably the art style, people are talking about it too much even before the thing begins for real. |
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| The story moves like a fat granny sitting on a scooter, lack of important character death, and the overall thing is too SOL, not enough GAR and action to stave off the inevitable realization of nihilism. |
| "You had no free will, you chased your vices along the same path as all of the others." - Shikieiki Yamaxanadu, Diamond in the rough |
| Josuke's shitty hair style. |
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| In order of perceived offensiveness: 1) The drastic artstyle shift (Jotaro in particular) 2) Where in Morioh is the plot going and where is the main villain? 3) Senile Joseph and the reveal that Joseph cheated on Suzy Q 4) Some of the weaker Stand "fights" 5) Rohan being a polarising character (he was basically a sociopath when first introduced) Special mention to Josuke's shitty hair :p |
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WandererRedux said: In order of perceived offensiveness: 1) The drastic artstyle shift (Jotaro in particular) 2) Where in Morioh is the plot going and where is the main villain? 3) Senile Joseph and the reveal that Joseph cheated on Suzy Q 4) Some of the weaker Stand "fights" 5) Rohan being a polarising character (he was basically a sociopath when first introduced) Special mention to Josuke's shitty hair :p *Claps* Well done, my friend. Well done. |
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